My friend called me from iraq and told me his wife wanted to learn how to fish and asked me if i would take her and i told his i definately would, I have been fishing for about 15 years so i am far from expert but i know what im doing, i took her to jacks point by the overpass bridge in jacksonville and rigged her with a 1/4 ounce jig and some gulp, and wouldnt you know it she outfished me 4 drum to 1 and she also caught 2 flounder to add insult to injury. All fish were caught on the bottom with 3"gulp, But Man i hate beginners lucksometimes cause i still am hearing it today and it was a week ago, Some people have all the luck. Good luck to everyone and dont catch em all save some for me