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    I was checking out NC freshwater records, and found what I believe is an error contained therein. It says we have a state record for "redeye bass", then, when the pic is clicked, it shows what I feel very strongly is a rock bass. I realize that both roanokes and rock bass are often called "redeyes", but the the true redeye bass is closely related to other members of the genus "Micropterus", which include the largemouth, (Micropterus Salmoides), the smallmouth (Micropterus Dolomieu), and the spotted bass, (Micropterus Punctulatus). The redeye or Coosa bass is Micropterus Coosa. Here is a link to the site, just scroll down to redeye bass, and click the photo icon to the right. Is this a rock bass? I feel it is. What do ya'll think?
    http://www.landbigfish.com/statereco...North Carolina
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry condrey View Post
    I was checking out NC freshwater records, and found what I believe is an error contained therein. It says we have a state record for "redeye bass", then, when the pic is clicked, it shows what I feel very strongly is a rock bass. I realize that both roanokes and rock bass are often called "redeyes", but the the true redeye bass is closely related to other members of the genus "Micropterus", which include the largemouth, (Micropterus Salmoides), the smallmouth (Micropterus Dolomieu), and the spotted bass, (Micropterus Punctulatus). The redeye or Coosa bass is Micropterus Coosa. Here is a link to the site, just scroll down to redeye bass, and click the photo icon to the right. Is this a rock bass? I feel it is. What do ya'll think?
    http://www.landbigfish.com/statereco...North Carolina
    Jerry, the photo is a rock bass of some sort, but I guess it could possibly be a Roanoke. It is probably the other type, found in places besides the Roanoke and Tar drainages and the Uwharrie. The illustration is a redeye bass, but I didn't know any were in NC. I know most call the rock bass here redeyes. When I say rock bass, I don't mean Roanoke bass, but the little boogers that hit hard in rivers like the New, so you think you have something, and then lay on their sides to be reeled in like a sandwich wrapper.

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    Yeah, all true, but the Wildlife records should not be calling the fish a redeye bass, because that would confuse folks. I don't know if the redeye is found here either, if it is, it would be in the mountains.

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    I found this map. Western NC. They need to correct that, because it is a native fish here.
    http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactS...?SpeciesID=395
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    The site you listed in your original post is not the official NC records site, this is http://www.ncwildlife.org/Fishing/Fi...rdProgram.aspx If you click on the picture on this site for rock bass you will find the picture of the "red-eye" bass posted on the other nonofficial site.

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    Did some checking with Wildlife commission. That particular site is in fact, in error. The fish is a rock bass. The Wildlife Commission's own site has the same fish and location and weight, as the state record for rock bass. Oddly, they have no size records for the redeye bass, AKA Coosa bass, which is found in our southwestern mountain streams.

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    Yeah, thanks, I just did that right before you posted. lol.But still wondering why there is no official redeye state record.

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    I don't think actual redeye bass exist in NC.

    Its possible a few reside in the streams that feed Lake Jocassee

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    Yeah, they do in a few of our southwestern mountain streams. This site shows the range.
    http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactS...?SpeciesID=395
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    they exist in the horsepasture and thompson but very limited, probaly no more than a couple miles of river at best.....that map that shows a big part on nc is wrong, the dark red area in nc is dead wrong....those fish didnt make it.......they are assuming they are in the catawba which they are not....back in the 60's they stocked some in the linville river(catawba trib) but they didnt make it......they either died out or what few made it crossed with the smallies and today they are not there....mack
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    I hate the crossbreeding thing, especially with smallies. Smallies should never be crossbred, they are perfect as they are! Anyway, I appreciate your input! I did read that they are limited to a few streams, and were never very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry condrey View Post
    Yeah, they do in a few of our southwestern mountain streams. This site shows the range.
    http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactS...?SpeciesID=395
    From your link

    Unknown in North Carolina.
    I would assume that would include the Jocassee tributaries as well.

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    A trip i want to do is to fish the horsepasture for redeyes but problay will never get to do it.....Mack
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    In response to your original post, your link contains inaccurrate information. The "Redeye Bass" mentioned that was caught on the Deep river in the link you posted was a rock bass, not a Redeye Bass. The pic is one of a Redeye Bass. Redeye bass do not exist in the Deep River.

    There is no state record redeye bass for the state of NC. Try this link.

    http://www.ncwildlife.org/Fishing/Fi...rdProgram.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckhunter80 View Post
    The site you listed in your original post is not the official NC records site, this is http://www.ncwildlife.org/Fishing/Fi...rdProgram.aspx If you click on the picture on this site for rock bass you will find the picture of the "red-eye" bass posted on the other nonofficial site.
    There is an error of the state site though. They list that the bluegill was caught using a catawba worm. I think they meant a catalpa worm. We used to have a catalpa tree that had worms in our yard and they were the best bait ever. An old man showed me how to turn them inside out on the hook. If you do that then the fish will race to see who gets it first.

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