hey man, got your message about the rigs. Did you run a skirt in front of the hoo? I haven't used the bead chain rigs yet so I don't have much experience with them. I do know to use wire to tighten everything down at the head. This is the video I plan to use when I'm doing my rigging: YouTube - How To Rig A Ballyhoo - FloridaKeysFishStories.com. Sorry to hear they didn't work for you, now I'm a little worried about them too...Anyway, glad you got on some bottom fish. Were gonna try to make it out this week if the weather will allow, man it's HOTTT right now Take care and tight lines