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    Default Flounder Fishery Closing Soon

    http://portal.ncdenr.org/web/mf/southern-flounder-topic

    Also, all "for hire" vessels (recreational guides) will be allowed a 4 fish limit year round.

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    NC is going to lose alot of money imo. People will simply go elsewhere like Va and Sc

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    Does anyone have a good understanding as to what is allowed (both recreational and commercial) and what is not allowed for the next two years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2fishNC View Post
    Does anyone have a good understanding as to what is allowed (both recreational and commercial) and what is not allowed for the next two years?
    Proclamation will be issued next week that will detail the regs. But it's simple....recreational fisherman got what they usually get, the worst part of the deal.

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    They throw numbers around like always from the compiled data but not one mention of the 33% keeper reduction that was implemented in 2017.

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    As stated in the advisory issued by MFC this afternoon, amendment 2 passed today and MFC expects to issue a proclamation next week closing the flounder fishery on or about September 4th.

    2 motions were made and passed during the meeting, pertaining to amendment 2 and subsequently, amendment 3.

    The first was a "request" for the director to consider allowing an exception for for-hire charter boats to be allowed 4 fish per day, each meeting the minimum 15" requirement.

    The second motion "requested" that the director consider some flexibility regarding pound nets during the closure.

    It's important to note that although both of these motions passed, the requests will only be under consideration by the director and the commission during review and finalization of amendment 3. Currently, there are no exceptions allowing for-hire charter boats to possess 4 flounder per day during the closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotSoup View Post
    They throw numbers around like always from the compiled data but not one mention of the 33% keeper reduction that was implemented in 2017.
    If that reduction had worked, we wouldn't need this closure. Stock assessments rely on biological data, not regulatory efficacy.

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    got a problem with forcing most recs to stop keeping flounder for a year as proposed while allowing the recs with plenty of money to be able to pay a guide several hundred dollars a day and keep 4 flounders per trip. Why cant the guide simple practice catch and release if the intent is to protect our flounder. many other fish for the guide to fish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cervus View Post
    If that reduction had worked, we wouldn't need this closure. Stock assessments rely on biological data, not regulatory efficacy.

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    Their "data" also says the "allowed" rec quota has been made hence the closure, even though the best flounder fishing is still quite a bit aways.

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    The last stock assessment for southern flounder was back in 2017 and the DMF does not know how well the last added restrictions are working. The stock may already be recovered for all they know. This is a very important fishery for both rec and commercial and assessments should be carried out more often.

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    None of this would have been required if the NCFA (commercial fishing trade group) had not filed a lawsuit several years ago to prevent efforts at that time to be implemented.
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    Iím expecting them to file this time, too. In their case thereís a lot to loose if they donít. And if they do, and the case is assigned to an eastern court judge, expect a reversal. The MFC or DMF will not fight. The inshore fish resource is a function of commercial fishermen and their lobby. Science and facts and data are ignored. Follow the money.

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    none of this would have happened either if the DMF did not raise the target number back in 2010 that defines overfishing. They keep raising the goal post so to speak as they have with red drum over the years. Makes it a lot harder to reach their goal which is part of their plan from the way it looks.

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    How much of this issue is a function of federal fisheries?

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    Not sure if it is from the feds. Feds get a bad name at times in order to make the more political State managers look like the good guy. An example is the sea turtle mess that occurred back around 2010. Feds have known for years that netters catch sea turtles and were not too overly concerned about it until The Topsail sea turtle org got a large donation from a certain group to file a suit in order to reduce or stop gill netting in NC waters. The Feds had to clamp down then and they did but not nearly as bad as some wanted them to.

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