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\r\n Our family has a place at EI so as long as the weather is fairly good the family wants to go to the beach. I grew up fishing the Pamlico River and tributaries and still fish there during the winter months but as long as the weather is nice I have had to learn to fish the Swansboro area. I was hard headed and would not hire a local guide. I firmly believe that was a mistake. It took valuable time to learn what I know now and I am still learning. At this point I am pretty confident that I can get on the fish most days when I am there but even after more than 5 years I feel that I could still benefit from a good guide.
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\nAlso, I would recommend learning the White Oak River. Great place to fish with less boat traffic. Be careful though, lots of oyster and sand bars.\r\n
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    \r\n Yea I am seriously looking at a guide. maybe in Nov. Sometimes im a knot-head also.
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    \nIve fished the WO a few times (This is the first time since Florence that I have fished seriously, Flo was a bear....)
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    \nUsually hit the normal areas Brick hole and the bridge. Never really had too much luck there. Lots of competition (boats) during the fall.
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    \nFished live bait under slip cork. What time of year do you find it heating up? Do you beat the bank and grass or live bait?
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    \n I only imagine the water needs to cool down some more.\r\n
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    Yea I am seriously looking at a guide. maybe in Nov. Sometimes im a knot-head also.
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    \nIve fished the WO a few times (This is the first time since Florence that I have fished seriously, Flo was a bear....)
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    \nUsually hit the normal areas Brick hole and the bridge. Never really had too much luck there. Lots of competition (boats) during the fall.
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    \nFished live bait under slip cork. What time of year do you find it heating up? Do you beat the bank and grass or live bait?
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    \nI fish the WO pretty much year round. Catch a lot of drum from mid summer to mid November. Work the banks from the bridge up to the sharp turn with the Oyster bars across the river.\r\n
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    \r\n Thank you for the advice and tips. Will try this year sometimes. Hope you keep catching\r\n
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    \r\n Find the bait worked for us today. Topwaters made it easy for aggressive Trout, also.
    \nCaught close to 10, has twice as many blow ups, kept 5. Biggest was close to 3 #\'s.....ICM
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    \r\n Nice catch....... Top water?
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    \nI went out sat night to try the full moon and did get a nice one on topwater. Nothing else. Lots of bait. Mullet and glass minows. I didnt use a light but might try it next time. Just trying to learn it.\r\n
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    Nice catch....... Top water?
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    Yes ALL topwater on Monday\'s bluebird day, after the rain Trout turned on for us.
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    \r\n Id say just as important as where to fish is what and how to fish. Make sure your using the right gear, baits, and presentation. I dont know how many times ive fished with other frirends who dont fish often and we have been on fish and i am catching and they are not. Even when we are using the same gear and baits. Many times its all down to rod angle, retrieve speed, and twitches/jerks. Its hard to go wrong with the look of an injured bait fish. Slow-moderate retrieve speed with twitches/jerks and pauses mixed in. Sometimes they like a vertical presentation (rod tip up), horizontal (rod tip down) or somewhere in the middle. You might be in the right spots and just fishing it wrong. Whatch videos on how to fish an 17mr and other baits.\r\n
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    I\'m finding fish in the creeks but the problem is finding big fish. I can catch undersized reds and seatrout all day long under a popping cork but rarely can I get a keeper. Do I need to leave the creeks? I would prefer to stay in the creeks with my kayak or fish from my dock.
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    I\'m finding fish in the creeks but the problem is finding big fish. I can catch undersized reds and seatrout all day long under a popping cork but rarely can I get a keeper. Do I need to leave the creeks? I would prefer to stay in the creeks with my kayak or fish from my dock.
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    Jmatt I just bumped a thread that helped me out a lot. Read the beginning part especially. PM me and I\'ll send you my very limited knowledge of the EI/Swansboro area.
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    Jmatt I just bumped a thread that helped me out a lot. Read the beginning part especially. PM me and I\'ll send you my very limited knowledge of the EI/Swansboro area.
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    \nThese elements help me determine where, what & how to fish.
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    \nMove 50 to 100 feet? Or just try another location.
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    \nThis simple formula is what works for me.......
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    This is what I found works for me.
    \nBefore I go I want to know the tide, wind direction / speed, water clarity & solunar bite time.
    \nThese elements help me determine where, what & how to fish.
    \nWill be throwing into the wind, across or against it? Heavier jig head, suspending or deep falling lure?
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    \nWill I be anchored, fishing towards the bank or away from the bank?
    \nWhere are the rips, what direction is it flowing? Do I want to be above it or below the rip?
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    \nStop catching, what changed? Tide, boat traffic, they moved?
    \nFan cast, long no twitch, short cast fast twitch. Speed up retrieve or slow it down?
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    \nMove 50 to 100 feet? Or just try another location.
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    \nThis simple formula is what works for me.......
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      I'm finding fish in the creeks but the problem is finding big fish. I can catch undersized reds and seatrout all day long under a popping cork but rarely can I get a keeper. Do I need to leave the creeks? I would prefer to stay in the creeks with my kayak or fish from my dock.
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