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\nFirst, thanks for all the great advise I have read on the forums. I have learned a lot.
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\nI have fished Swans EI area all my life (in my 50\'s), My family never had a boat so I was a pier rat ( Old Emerald Isle Pier) and surf fishing. I have a boat now.
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\nSeconds i am not asking for secret spots (unless you want to dm them to me LOL and I wont tell anyone (just in case Swansboro New River area)..)
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\nIf everyone doesnt mind ... I struggle with "What to look for when fishing a spot or finding spots . I see people "youtube, TV, fishing classes" catching fish or talking about catching what looks like, in random looking areas and I never know why they picked that particular spot. What should I look for when running the marsh, creeks, rivers, or inlets? Drop offs, points, oysters, current rips,........? What underwater features should I key in on? Why does someone fish one creek mouth and not another?
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\nMy fishing time is limited (working because unfortunately I have a bad habit of eating) and I just cant seem to process what I need to do in my limited brain pan.
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\nThanks again and I am sure this subject has been talked about but I just cant seem to understand in plain english sometimes.
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\nIf anyone is fishing today make sure you post pict...... It drives the rest of us nuts...\r\n
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    \r\n Do research on google maps. Find some creeks between the intracoastal and the ocean. Look for dark spots on the map . Normally around bends has deeper water. If you drive up and down enough creeks you\'ll eventually find schools of reds and trout. Navionics web app isnt a bad spot to find holes in the bays as well. I found all my spots by exploring for the most part by this method and being curious on the water seeing what other people were up to.
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    \nSome spots in the area that\'s common knowledge is:
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    \nFreeman creek
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    \nI cant speak on swansboro or above as I lived in sneads ferry and never mozied past bear inlet.
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    \nPut in the work and you\'ll eventually have a plethora of spots to call your own
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    \nAre you only looking at deep holes for your spots? Or is there anything else that catches your attention? When you head up a creek do you fish from the start working your way up? Or do you cruise until you see something that looks interesting?
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    \nI might be trying to over think it..... Ive known myself to do that before.
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    \r\n Have you considered hiring a guide to show you the key points or what to look for while fishing?
    \nCapt Ray Brittian of Spring Tide Guide Service is great teacher...........ICM
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    \nMy wife keeps saying I don\'t listen to her .... or something like that.
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    Have you considered hiring a guide to show you the key points or what to look for while fishing?
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    \nYea I have considered it. Matter of fact Ray of one youtube eastern current this week talking about trout fishing. Pretty good stuff.
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    \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spJ6siuqFxc
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    \nThe guy I normally fish with last couple of years is a live bait guy and he taught me couple of spots, slip corks, etc. Those spots were passed down to him from someone he knew.
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    \nAgain maybe I am over thinking it (and its just real simple) looking for that magic phrase or secret that I seem to feel I am missing when learning fake bait and keying in on the bite.
    \nOr I might be knocking it out of the park considering how much time I have, how much time I am able to be on the water and just dont know it.
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    \nI currently do scan youtube and newsletters for tips and tricks. Matter of fact this morning on youtube the guide ou tof Wilm was saying underwater points and humps. I kinda know it but needed that reassuring.
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    \nAnyway good advice also and thanks for the reply. I always see you contributing loads of wisdom on this forum.\r\n
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    \r\n Thank you for the compliment.
    \nMore than a few have shared their knowledge with me, just passing it forward.
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    \nEastern Currents has had some really good podcast. Enjoy them & learn a few new tricks.
    \nWe all have the tendency to over think it. I just finished watching several videos on "Corky" lures.
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    \r\n I think it was an interview on eastern current w travis overman (lookng at my youtube history) Also there was a great mirrolure info from Lee parson on the Coastal Carolina fishing magazine (youtube again) He was in Eastern Outfitters giving a class.
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    \nAfter limit of Trout (1.5 to 3+ on betts shrimp natural and chartreuse 1/2 oz ) on one of the spots I know. I did go exploring in the marsh and found some nice 8ft holes that I think will be promising when it cools off a bit more. Shallow all around it .
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    \r\n Our family has a place at EI so as long as the weather is fairly good the family wants to go to the beach. I grew up fishing the Pamlico River and tributaries and still fish there during the winter months but as long as the weather is nice I have had to learn to fish the Swansboro area. I was hard headed and would not hire a local guide. I firmly believe that was a mistake. It took valuable time to learn what I know now and I am still learning. At this point I am pretty confident that I can get on the fish most days when I am there but even after more than 5 years I feel that I could still benefit from a good guide.
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    \r\n Yea I am seriously looking at a guide. maybe in Nov. Sometimes im a knot-head also.
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    \nIve fished the WO a few times (This is the first time since Florence that I have fished seriously, Flo was a bear....)
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    \nUsually hit the normal areas Brick hole and the bridge. Never really had too much luck there. Lots of competition (boats) during the fall.
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    \nFished live bait under slip cork. What time of year do you find it heating up? Do you beat the bank and grass or live bait?
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    Nice catch....... Top water?
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    Yes ALL topwater on Monday\'s bluebird day, after the rain Trout turned on for us.
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    Jmatt, not me, but the MR17 is my go-to trout bait. Hope to go out tomorrow.
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      Default Advise Welcome. Inshore Trout, reds..... What to look for...

      Hi evryone.

      First, thanks for all the great advise I have read on the forums. I have learned a lot.

      I have fished Swans EI area all my life (in my 50's), My family never had a boat so I was a pier rat ( Old Emerald Isle Pier) and surf fishing. I have a boat now.

      Seconds i am not asking for secret spots (unless you want to dm them to me LOL and I wont tell anyone (just in case Swansboro New River area)..)

      If everyone doesnt mind ... I struggle with "What to look for when fishing a spot or finding spots . I see people "youtube, TV, fishing classes" catching fish or talking about catching what looks like, in random looking areas and I never know why they picked that particular spot. What should I look for when running the marsh, creeks, rivers, or inlets? Drop offs, points, oysters, current rips,........? What underwater features should I key in on? Why does someone fish one creek mouth and not another?

      My fishing time is limited (working because unfortunately I have a bad habit of eating) and I just cant seem to process what I need to do in my limited brain pan.

      Thanks again and I am sure this subject has been talked about but I just cant seem to understand in plain english sometimes.

      If anyone is fishing today make sure you post pict...... It drives the rest of us nuts...

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