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\nI decided to stay closer to home today, and explore more of New Hope Creek in Duke Forest. I had to run up to Hillsborough after work anyway, so it made sense to just cut over to Erwin Road via Whitfield Road on my way home, and park at Hollow Rock Nature Preserve. And today, unlike last time, the parking lot wasn\'t jam packed. There were a few cars there, but nothing crazy. The brief rain shower that came through earlier may have dissuaded some folks from coming out. But by the time I got there, the weather was nearly perfect, other than being a bit muggy.
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\nI also decided to change up my approach a little bit today. Normally I try to find a spot that I think has fish (keep in mind, I\'m only talking about bank fishing here, so no "fish finder" or other electronic aids to find fish) and assume there are fish in the area, and that my job is to find the combination of depth, bait, retrieve, etc. that will entice them enough to strike. This is why I typically change lures fairly frequently, and try many different retrieve techniques, speeds, etc.
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\nBut this time, I picked ONE lure and used it the entire time. It was just a chunk of chartreuse green plastic worm on a weedless hook, with a nail weight jammed up its bum. Rigged this way it doesn\'t have much action when retrieved at a constant speed, but does this neat little dance when twitched. And so I walked down to the creek from the parking lot, and just started making my way down the trail, trying a number of different spots. The theory is "I have a lure that a fish would hit, now I just have to find the fish."
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\nIn this particular case, this was probably not the best lure, because I don\'t think it looks anything like any natural food that fish in this creek eat. And the water was very clear in most of the places I stopped. But I was honestly there to explore as much as I was to make a serious effort to catch fish, and it was already tied on, so I just went with it.
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\nFrom Hollow Rock I made my way down to the Erwin Road bridge, and spent a bunch of time casting up under the bridge, around the bridge pilings, etc. Then I just kept working my way down, finding all sorts of amazing looking scenery. And met some girl and her dog, and her dog came running over wanting to play, so I stopped to play with the dog for a while. Highlight of the trip right there.
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\nMet a guy and his kid coming the other way on the trail, and he said they had managed to catch a few sunfish.
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\nAfter about an hour of this, the humidity, the temperature, my age, and all that climbing up and down hills and rocks and what-not had worn me out, so I packed it in and headed. home. No fish caught, but I enjoyed myself and got some exercise. You should have heard me earlier in the day, on the phone with my doctor, trying to convince her that fishing counts for my exercise goals. I don\'t think she was buying it, but she hasn\'t seen the hiking I was doing today.
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\nFinally, the one part of this trip that I can\'t do justice to verbally is the scenery. So much amazing stuff out there. I took a ton of pictures, and once I\'ve pulled them off my phone and gotten rid of the fuzzy ones and what-not, I\'ll come back and post some for you guys. Anybody who hasn\'t been out in Duke Forest before will probably really enjoy these.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by mrpossumtail\r\n View Post\r\n
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    Mindcrime, if you can make your way to skinny and rocky water then it is super easy to target the fish. They will be in any deeper pools between riffles and in eddys behind current breaks in the riffles. The heads and tails of the holes fish the best where there is more current. If there is wood cover or larger rocks in the holes the whole thing can fish well. Use the wee craw in those areas and I will just about guarantee you can catch some fish.\r\n
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    Couple things,
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    I\'ve never caught a chain pickerel. I don\'t think there were any in the farm ponds back home. Any advice on what lures work best for them specifically? I\'m mainly interested in bass, but I\'d love to catch something new as well.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by mindcrime\r\n View Post\r\n
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    I\'ve never caught a chain pickerel. I don\'t think there were any in the farm ponds back home. Any advice on what lures work best for them specifically? I\'m mainly interested in bass, but I\'d love to catch something new as well.
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    Larger spinners and floating plugs (f7 or f9 rapala), or husky jerk. March is golden for Pickerel, but can be caught other times of year. Fish slack pools among wood where light flow is pushing the slack.\r\n
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      Default 04-06-2020 - New Hope Creek @ Duke Forest and Hollow Rock Nature Preserve

      04-06-2020
      New Hope Creek @ Duke Forest and Hollow Rock Nature Preserve

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      I decided to stay closer to home today, and explore more of New Hope Creek in Duke Forest. I had to run up to Hillsborough after work anyway, so it made sense to just cut over to Erwin Road via Whitfield Road on my way home, and park at Hollow Rock Nature Preserve. And today, unlike last time, the parking lot wasn't jam packed. There were a few cars there, but nothing crazy. The brief rain shower that came through earlier may have dissuaded some folks from coming out. But by the time I got there, the weather was nearly perfect, other than being a bit muggy.

      I also decided to change up my approach a little bit today. Normally I try to find a spot that I think has fish (keep in mind, I'm only talking about bank fishing here, so no "fish finder" or other electronic aids to find fish) and assume there are fish in the area, and that my job is to find the combination of depth, bait, retrieve, etc. that will entice them enough to strike. This is why I typically change lures fairly frequently, and try many different retrieve techniques, speeds, etc.

      But this time, I picked ONE lure and used it the entire time. It was just a chunk of chartreuse green plastic worm on a weedless hook, with a nail weight jammed up its bum. Rigged this way it doesn't have much action when retrieved at a constant speed, but does this neat little dance when twitched. And so I walked down to the creek from the parking lot, and just started making my way down the trail, trying a number of different spots. The theory is "I have a lure that a fish would hit, now I just have to find the fish."

      In this particular case, this was probably not the best lure, because I don't think it looks anything like any natural food that fish in this creek eat. And the water was very clear in most of the places I stopped. But I was honestly there to explore as much as I was to make a serious effort to catch fish, and it was already tied on, so I just went with it.

      From Hollow Rock I made my way down to the Erwin Road bridge, and spent a bunch of time casting up under the bridge, around the bridge pilings, etc. Then I just kept working my way down, finding all sorts of amazing looking scenery. And met some girl and her dog, and her dog came running over wanting to play, so I stopped to play with the dog for a while. Highlight of the trip right there.

      Met a guy and his kid coming the other way on the trail, and he said they had managed to catch a few sunfish.

      After about an hour of this, the humidity, the temperature, my age, and all that climbing up and down hills and rocks and what-not had worn me out, so I packed it in and headed. home. No fish caught, but I enjoyed myself and got some exercise. You should have heard me earlier in the day, on the phone with my doctor, trying to convince her that fishing counts for my exercise goals. I don't think she was buying it, but she hasn't seen the hiking I was doing today.

      Finally, the one part of this trip that I can't do justice to verbally is the scenery. So much amazing stuff out there. I took a ton of pictures, and once I've pulled them off my phone and gotten rid of the fuzzy ones and what-not, I'll come back and post some for you guys. Anybody who hasn't been out in Duke Forest before will probably really enjoy these.
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