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    Default Govt has to tell you what hook to use


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    Already use circle hooks, don't see a problem..... ICM
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    They work good for drum and blues. How about other usually smaller fish?

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    Didnt see the larger than 2/0. That makes me less concerned now. Still though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bertboy90 View Post
    Didnt see the larger than 2/0. That makes me less concerned now. Still though..
    That seems worse to me. The article says that you have to use a hook larger than 2/0 if you are using "natural bait". That reads to me like if I'm fishing for spot with bits of shrimp, I'd have to use a 3/0 hook, which is crazy. Especially since that would allow me to use a j-hook or a smaller circle hook if I used Fishbites. I reckon that's got to be wrong, but I'm not sure what other inference to take.
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    More government regulations always make things better.

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    What's the issue with using a type of hooks which will improve the sustainability of the ecosystem? Is it the end of the world that you have to crush your barbs or use circle hooks?
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    The issue in my book is the government TELLING me I have to use a certain type of hook. Recommend, okay, Advise, okay, but requiring is not okay in my book.

    Just more government over reach.

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    I’m a big fan of both circle hooks and barbless hooks. I fished barbless for years but have somehow gotten away from it. I have lost some fish with barbless hooks but I release 99.9% of my catch so if a fish gets away so be it.
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    If you want to use circle hooks use circle hooks. J hooks have their place with certain species. Offshore, rigging ballyhoo with j hooks is much more effective than using circle hooks. It is ridiculous for the mfc to put a blanket rule in place for hooks.

    If a fisherman notices he is constantly gut hooking fish, he will most likely change his hook selection anyway.

    Why is the MFC discussing hook types when bottom trawling is still allowed? Red herring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crappie89 View Post
    Why is the MFC discussing hook types when bottom trawling is still allowed? Red herring.
    Last I checked, recreational fishing was in long-term decline in terms of the number of people participating(despite population increase). If fish stocks are threatened despite that, either the remaining fishermen are really good, or...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drum Solo View Post
    Last I checked, recreational fishing was in long-term decline in terms of the number of people participating(despite population increase). If fish stocks are threatened despite that, either the remaining fishermen are really good, or...
    Drum Solo I'd like to know who wrote the report that says the number of people participating in Recreational fishing were decline, I want to carry that person Trout fishing on the Pamlico so he can see where his decline went to! Over the past 10 years the number of people fishing in my home area sure has not declined and in fact has probably close to doubled. 15 to 20 years ago I could fish during the week and maybe see half a dozen other boats, now the ramps are packed full with 30 to 50 trucks & trailers, there are boats everywhere Monday thru Friday and God only knows what it looks like on the weekends... I'm guessing it must be the same guy that said the Flounder were in decline in the Pamlico Sound, because he was wrong about that too!

    As for the Circle hook rule, I too feel it's regulation over reach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperstriper View Post
    Drum Solo I'd like to know who wrote the report that says the number of people participating in Recreational fishing were decline, I want to carry that person Trout fishing on the Pamlico so he can see where his decline went to!
    I linked to it in my post. So far no one has had anything to say other than "there are a lot of boats out on the river when I go fishing". A pretty obvious possible explanation for that(especially weekday fishing) when it comes to the Pamlico would be Baby Boomers retiring and moving to retirement communities, etc. etc. This would increase the number of people fishing on the Pamlico without increasing overall numbers of people fishing. And this is why anecdote is not the singular form of "data".

    I'll be the first to admit that one metric taken from one source isn't the end-all, be-all, and you would be right to not trust survey data 100%, but that's why I also linked in the bit about fewer fishing licenses being sold. I find it pretty hard to believe that DMF can't keep an accurate count of how many licenses it sells every year, and # of licenses sold seems like a pretty good substitute for # of people fishing to me, unless you believe that there are hoards of poachers out there.

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    Think about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cervus View Post
    Think about it...
    I did, but I might not be the smartest...

    There are other news stories that say that the circle hook thing is just for shark fishing. Minutes from the meeting aren't online but the packets are, and the presentation on circle hooks didn't focus specifically on sharks and appears to have been dealing with all recreational fishing.

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