Sorry Fellows--- I must pass on this one. I come from the era of old level wind reels, split bamboo and steel rods. Some days your first cast would be your last. It would take a week sometimes to pick out and untangle a major backlash. Had to, no way I could afford a new line. For me ,outside of trolling, if it can't be done with a spinner or fly rod, it will have to go undone. I know they have pretty well perfected bait casters and I own some, just too many old bad memories to use them, first backlash and I would probably chunk overboard.