I finally made the commitment to invest some money trying to improve my fishing & hired a guide recently. I specifically requested to target reds and also said I wanted to learn as much as I wanted to actually catch fish. Split the fare with a buddy of mine. That said, for a 4-hour trip, we only caught one red in the slot and one rat. Probably learned more than I realize but it is hard to describe what I learned. Is that a typical amount of production for 4 hours with a pro? Because if so I don't think I'm going to bother fishing for reds on my own! Or are some days just like that? Guide seems like a good guy and I'm not trying to run him down at all so do not want to get into too many specifics, but I'm just trying to get a feel for what I should have expected. I realize there are some frequent posters here that are guides that can maybe offer some opinions (pretty sure none of you are the guide).