Maybe it's just some of the guys I fish with. I have to get on them from time to time. Either way I was just letting folks know what can and will happen if you choose to use to much leader for the water depth you are targeting. Wasn't trying to offend anyone just passing along some info they may help folks be more aware of having the right leader lenght. Go get em!! They're biting good on the Neuse!!I think it it is a matter of understanding the conditions you are fishing. I feel pretty confident most folks know what a bite feels like. And surely most folks know to adjust there leader lengths according to depth.