Didn't want to put this on the fly fishing forum so more people would see it, and the ones who have a slight interest in fly fishing would see it. BPS has their Bugger Fly Fishing outfit on sale for $40 with no shipping charges (not sure how long the free shipping offer lasts on rods and reels), that usually sells for $90. Since I have gotten better at fly casting, I would not buy this for myself at this time, but would have been an interesting deal when I bought my 1st outfit. Reviews are mixed, but on average not bad. it would give someone the chance, who may never give fly fishing a try, to find out if their interest is enough to buy a better outfit later, and would be OK to learn the fly casting technique.