I just came across a review of the new Hobie Mirage Pro Angler 17T. This latest addition to Hobie's lineup weighs in at 230 lbs. This thing will have to be launched from a trailer as I can't see two grown men who could lug this behemoth very far. I did some checking and found you can buy a 12' aluminum Johnboat weighing less than 90 lbs. for around $600 and up to a 15' Johnboat which will weigh close to the hobie's weight for far less. Of course fully rigged they will weigh more but we will be carrying and launching it from a trailer. The Hobie is 17' long but a 12' Johnboat has far more room and I'd be willing to bet displaces less water. If I want to take my kid or another person along I think we'd be far more comfortable in the Johnboat and with 360 degree swivel seats. The only upside to the Hobie I can see is being able to fish Kayak tournaments. I haven't checked the price but I'm relatively sure you can rig a nice Johnboat for fishing for far less than the Hobie's price. Maybe it's me but when the weight of your kayak exceeds 200 lbs I think we're kinda getting away from one of the main reasons we were attracted to kayak fishing. Just my two cents.