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"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels
were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on
government would be necessary. In framing a government which is
to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in
this: you must first enable the government to control the governed;
and in the next place, oblige it to control itself."

-- James Madison (Federalist No. 51, 8 February 1788)

Reference: Madison, Federalist No. 51.
 

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Amen to that, Randy. Of the people, by the people and for the people has turned into "Of the prideful, by the greedy, and for the money." I guess that most start out with good ideals, it is when they determine that they "deserve it" that they are obliged to temptations and deceit.
 
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