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Folks:

I just got done respooling my favorite spinning real with fresh line. I'm excited to see how this works, between switching to the high-viz yellow line and using a leader of fluorocarbon line. But as I was putting this braid on, it struck me that it doesn't feel as limp as I remember braid being. Back in the day, I recall the extreme limpness being one of the defining characteristics of braided line.

The stuff I used is Spiderwire Stealth braid, in 40lb test (12lb test diameter). Honestly, it feels about as stiff to me, as 12lb mono would. Which may still be OK, but I wonder how it's going to affect the castability.

Anyway, guess I'll find out next time I'm on the water, but if anybody can comment on whether this stuff has changed over the years, or my memory is just shot, it would be... .uh, what was I talking about?

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What type of fishing are you doing? 40lb is heavy line!
I call myself a bass fisherman, but in truth, most of the time I'll take whatever bites. Lately I've been fishing on New Hope Creek a lot, and all I've caught are warmouth, crappie, and perch.

Yeah, 40# is heavy in absolute terms, but since it's braid, it's the diameter of 12# mono. It casts well and I have a better shot of getting a hung lure back. That said, I have just switched to using a fluorocarbon leader in case the line really does spook fish. Initial results seem promising.
 

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The stiffness is from the, for lack of a better word, paint they put on the line. The material they make the braid out of won't dye so it has a type of paint on it. The longer you use it the whiter and softer it becomes. It also tends to weaken over time from fraying so when it gets white looking snip a bit off. Finally, the 5-strand braids are flat there are some 7 and 8 strand braids that are round and are limper but they cost a bit more. I like the 8 strand better personally. Pretty sure the spiderwire is a flat braid.
 

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The stiffness is from the, for lack of a better word, paint they put on the line. The material they make the braid out of won't dye so it has a type of paint on it. The longer you use it the whiter and softer it becomes. It also tends to weaken over time from fraying so when it gets white looking snip a bit off. Finally, the 5-strand braids are flat there are some 7 and 8 strand braids that are round and are limper but they cost a bit more. I like the 8 strand better personally. Pretty sure the spiderwire is a flat braid.
OK, that makes sense. The stuff I was using back in the day was un-colored so that's probably it.

That said, I'm really liking this high-viz line so far, so I don't mind paying the cost of a small increase in stiffness. Especially if it softens up over time anyway.
 

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"In the day" braided line was Dacron, and it was limp. Modern braids are made of spectra and are much smaller in diameter than Dacron, but are not soft. Modern braids fish 1,000 times as well as the old Dacron line. Because they have virtually no stretch, you can feel what your lure is doing, this means fewer misses & more fish in the boat. Also, because modern braids are much smaller in diameter than Dacron line your reel can hold much more line and the line has less resistance pulling through the water — allowing deep lures to go deeper.
 

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I've been using Kastking braid for years on spincast, spinning and baitcast reels. Casts well, limp and all the other advantages of braid. I found that a f/c leader not needed.
 

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I use the Kastking braided line also. You can get a 1093 yard of 15 pound test for 38.99, with free shipping. Seems all braids bleed out the color and start turning lighter colors. You can definitely get your moneys worth out of a spool. If you use it for a couple of years, take and turn the line around on the spool, put the top to the bottom and bottom to the top. Then you are using line that has not been used and ready for a couple more years.

Some braids are softer coming off the spool than others.. FinS is one of those. Others are stiffer and take some getting use to, but will soften up some with continued use.
 

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I can't speak to Spiderwire Stealth because I've never used it, but a stiff braided line generally defeats the purpose of using braid in the first place unless it's on a trolling reel or if you're flipping in heavy cover or vertical jigging. For most FW applications, 40# is way overkill in my opinion (unless you're soaking baits for blue cats or something like that). You may find that your line will tame out a bit with use as others have mentioned above, but I think you'll be a little happier with performance in FW if you go down to 30# or even better with 20#. Reasons: Far better casting performance. You're probably not fishing with a reel that comes anywhere close to 20# of drag. If you get hung up, most braids are rated far below their actual breaking strengths, and you'll probably break off at the leader knot or terminal knot anyways. But let on the water experience be your guide. Everybody has different preferences.

For what it's worth, I fish Daiwa Samurai braid. It's ultra thin, super limp, it casts better than any braid I've used. Down sides: It's expensive. It breaks right about at it's advertised test, and if you're not experienced fishing with light braided lines or your reel isn't braid friendly, it will give you problems. It's definitely not for everybody. Daiwa's less expensive alternative, the J Braid is also a limp line, but I've had problems with it, don't like it and don't recommend it. Power Pro V2 Slick is also a limp line with good casting performance. I like it a lot, have used it without any significant problems and I recommend it. I don't like the original Power Pro. Too stiff, unreliable performance. I don't have any experience with Kastking or with the Suffix 832, but I know a lot of guys who really swear by them both. Bottom line is you have to experiment a bit to find the right brand and the right test that best suits what you're fishing for and how. Good luck.
 

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Like Scott said !! I never go heavier than 20# KK for larger lures or lighter than 6# KK for the small stuff.
Best price, best sensitivity, best long distance hook sets and the line allows the best action of small lures. The more you cast it the limper and softer it becomes but only to a point. The power is always there.
 
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