new to baitcasters, is this supposed to be like this?

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · May 30, 2015

It looks to me that there was some glue that came undone on this brake. Is this something I can put a couple of drops of crazy glue on or something? Will it work right without being glued?

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Its an Ardent Edge, a couple of years old or so, but it hasn't seen many casts I'm told.
I bought this off a friend and paid very little for this reel, so I am willing to do a little work on it.

Thanks in advance

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2840-FISH

· #2 · May 30, 2015

NO GLUE Crazy glue and reel internals just dont go together... and from what i can see, that brake needs to be moving freely as possible for it to work properly, might be missing a piece ie clip ect, jst look for a manuel for that reel, search for reel parts, from likes scottsbt.com has alot of diagrams ect

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · #3 · May 30, 2015

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Thanks for the info on the no glue. I don't see a clip in the diagram.

Here's a close up of what looks to me like some sort of adhesive that came loose

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 30, 2015

If you think it needs to move freely should I just let it be? It seems to stay in its place when the cover is closed

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trigger22

· #5 · May 30, 2015

It should be allowed to move freely. That's most likely old grease and not adhesive.

kbullick

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 30, 2015

Ok thanks. Should I do anything to it at all? It looks dry, should I give a little oil? All I have right now is some reel magic, I plan on getting on of those ardent maintenance kits at some point

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trigger22

· #7 · May 30, 2015

Clean and lightly oil. Here's a link to follow until you get comfortable with disassembly on your own. I use it to clean my reels. http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac...e.res/Maintenance Tips- Baitcasting Reels.pdf

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Drum Runner

· #8 · May 30, 2015

Brakes are training wheels.

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NCTribute

· #9 · May 30, 2015

kbullick said:
Thanks for the info on the no glue. I don't see a clip in the diagram.

Here's a close up of what looks to me like some sort of adhesive that came loose

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The brake you are holding should be attached to and spin with the red spool, are you sure it is not a press fit into the red spool? It should not be allowed to move relative to the spool. Sure looks like either some of it has melted or some sort of adhesive has been on it. Is the spool the same on both ends?

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Bleedingblue

· #10 · May 30, 2015

I agree with NCTribute. The brake assembly must turn with the spool. The centrifugal force of the spinning spool forces the brakes (black pieces) out into a brass ring in the side cover slowing the spool. I think that the brake assembly was glued into the spool. It looks like it fits right into a lip on the spool (see picture). I would trim away any old glue of the brake assembly then use some epoxy to attach it back to the spool but use as little as possible to avoid messing with the spool balance.

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 31, 2015

NCTribute said:
The brake you are holding should be attached to and spin with the red spool, are you sure it is not a press fit into the red spool? It should not be allowed to move relative to the spool. Sure looks like either some of it has melted or some sort of adhesive has been on it. Is the spool the same on both ends?

I haven't taken the spool out yet. Never done it before and want to take my time with it.
If I press it firmly it sticks in there, but as soon I move a tab it falls out.

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 31, 2015

Bleedingblue said:
I agree with NCTribute. The brake assembly must turn with the spool. The centrifugal force of the spinning spool forces the brakes (black pieces) out into a brass ring in the side cover slowing the spool. I think that the brake assembly was glued into the spool. It looks like it fits right into a lip on the spool (see picture). I would trim away any old glue of the brake assembly then use some epoxy to attach it back to the spool but use as little as possible to avoid messing with the spool balance.

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This is what I was originally thinking about the this device works.
Any particular kind of epoxy?

Thanks everybody for all the info.

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kbullick

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 31, 2015

trigger22 said:
Clean and lightly oil. Here's a link to follow until you get comfortable with disassembly on your own. I use it to clean my reels. http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac...e.res/Maintenance Tips- Baitcasting Reels.pdf

I have this bookmarked and will get into this when I can sit down with it and not be disturbed until I get it all back together!

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Bleedingblue

· #14 · May 31, 2015

kbullick said:
This is what I was originally thinking about the this device works.
Any particular kind of epoxy?

Thanks everybody for all the info.

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If it were my reel I'd rough up the spool and the brake assembly with some fine sandpaper like 600 grit. Don't remove any material just give something for the epoxy to grab onto. As for epoxy type I would think the standard 5-minute stuff would be fine. The brake assembly is not under much force so special epoxy shouldn't be needed. I'd apply a thin film with my fingertip and that's all I'd use.

E-tec

· #15 · Jun 17, 2015

I would get in touch with the manufacturer.

meenyt

· #16 · Jun 17, 2015

Once it's in the spool, it will be okay. I can't tell exactly what you are showing in the pics, but the brake clips will stay in place once you get them inside the spool. Just be careful to insure they are on there when you close it up. I have a Shimano that I broke one of the arms that holds a brake clip completely off. It works like a charm.

kbullick

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 17, 2015

I've only been able to get out fishing once since I got this reel. What I ended up doing was nothing. It's smooth and casts a mile. I think I'm just going to leave it alone

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meenyt

· #18 · Jun 17, 2015

Sounds good. Better that it's working, than try to "fix" it and it not work. I for one will admit to that happening more than I like to think!

kbullick

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jun 18, 2015

My wife was the voice of reason on the this one in the end. "Have you tried it? Are you sure it needs to be fixed?"

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