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Have been running my 218 skiff mostly to fish out of, but since I have a lot of days during the week when I could fish by myself or trying a new spot I wanted something smaller to make it easier to handle. Had debated a lot on a kayak, but couldn't take my son or maybe one other person so I opted on a nice 1436 I ran across. Not as wide as I'd like and not big enough for the whole family, but I think it will get a lot of use. It has a 45lb trolling motor, but I want to add a 9-15 hp outboard, maybe deck it and it should be a good little boat. If anyone has any advice let me know. Thanks
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Personally, I would not deck it. A boat that narrow with a deck will be pretty unstable moving around. Also you will lose valuable storage space with a deck. I had a similar sized boat with a 9.9 and it moved pretty good, but I wouldn't go smaller.

I miss my little boat. I plan to pick up another in the near future.

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You could deck it without adding a lot of weight. People tend to think boat decks need to be built to 40 pound live load specs. I guess because most everyone is somewhat familiar with how a house is framed. I see a lot of the tin boats with 3/4" plywood floors and decks which is way overkill and heavy.

The main problem you can't build light for $49.95 or build it from a Lowes store. You got to crack the wallet substantially more and broaden the shopping horizon.
 

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Im working on a similar project but a little larger, what do you suggest?

You could deck it without adding a lot of weight. People tend to think boat decks need to be built to 40 pound live load specs. I guess because most everyone is somewhat familiar with how a house is framed. I see a lot of the tin boats with 3/4" plywood floors and decks which is way overkill and heavy.

The main problem you can't build light for $49.95 or build it from a Lowes store. You got to crack the wallet substantially more and broaden the shopping horizon.
 

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I would not deck it. I would put a floor in it with it slightly elevated in front but not high. Not very stable width. This guy is small and watch this boat. Think about being distracted with a fish, and hit with a wake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYnXMhBb3xI
 
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Great looking job you've done on your boat. This may not be practical, but was thinking how it would be to take a piece of plywood and add some hangers to it that would fit over the gunnels, and drop it down to the level you want, just to give it a try.
 

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Im working on a similar project but a little larger, what do you suggest?
Think in terms of 1/4" Okoume marine plywood for standing supportive bulkheads. Glassed using epoxy
The sole or decking. 1/2" glassed one or both sides with 12oz biaxial glass cloth depending on the sub structure.

Another more expensive option would be products like Nidacore.

Glass and epoxy change the whole ballgame when it comes to strength. In 1/2" Okoume you'll have 7 SOLID plies which is far superior to construction grade plywood and a weight around 40 pounds a sheet. In a construction grade 3/4 pine plywood you are looking at 5 crappy plies and as much as 69-70 pounds a sheet. Treated plywood...you can almost double that weight in the green state.
Airplane weights and CG's are critical so weight is paid attention to. It's no different with a boat. The idea is to have weight as an important concern in a project like that and pay attention to the balance of the boat.

Like anything else, you get what you pay.
 

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That sounds very interesting, wish I had as much experience as you but Im not familiar with most of those materials.Wish you were closer. I was going to start a new thread and get suggestions on helping me rig my project boat but so many critics here not sure I want to now.

Think in terms of 1/4" Okoume marine plywood for standing supportive bulkheads. Glassed using epoxy
The sole or decking. 1/2" glassed one or both sides with 12oz biaxial glass cloth depending on the sub structure.

Another more expensive option would be products like Nidacore.

Glass and epoxy change the whole ballgame when it comes to strength. In 1/2" Okoume you'll have 7 SOLID plies which is far superior to construction grade plywood and a weight around 40 pounds a sheet. In a construction grade 3/4 pine plywood you are looking at 5 crappy plies and as much as 69-70 pounds a sheet. Treated plywood...you can almost double that weight in the green state.
Airplane weights and CG's are critical so weight is paid attention to. It's no different with a boat. The idea is to have weight as an important concern in a project like that and pay attention to the balance of the boat.

Like anything else, you get what you pay.
 

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I didn't have any experience either. I had no teacher standing there showing me.
I had message boards and You tube in the beginning then I progressed to boat building books and wooden boat magazine.

I'm an amateur. Not an engineer but having built several boats including power boats you kinda see where the strength comes from and how it works out of the blue prints and in building it.

It's been a 20 year journey. Very slow in the beginning with no hands on. Just a little dabbling and then the moment I bit the bullet and just went for it came. It never stopped. I look at some of the small creek boats I built 30 years ago with no internet or books, shake my head, and laugh. They worked, but the engineering was all wrong.

I wouldn't criticize your work. I would offer suggestions and share what I know until you told me to shut up probably.
 

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When I was younger I had a fleet. 5 registered boats at once. One for every hole I fished. Each one met a specific need for a specific body of water. One being a Mattamuskeet boat. The only place it was used.
 

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I had an Alumacraft 1236 as my first fishing boat. It was stable enough to stand and fish 2 people. One standing on the rear seat and other on the middle seat, the front deck wasnt big enough for me to stand and fish comfortably. I had a 15 hp on mine, it would GPS 27 or 28 MPH with my fat butt and alot of gear. If I still had it I would probably deck it from the middle seat forward with a bow mount TM and leaning post.
 

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I used PVC sheeting for a deck for my boat a few years back. Most likely, my problems with it were my own fault. I will say this, the PVC I used warped up. Don't think all of that was because some of it was load bearing. I also had a wood frame that supported it. Ended up tearing it out.
 
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