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I have a questions about the leader material on my fighting rod. My fighting rod set-up right now is 30 mono on about 200 yards braid backing putting me a little over 400 yards on the Saltist. I also added about 20 ft of 80 pound mono for a leader.

But on my first outing a gentlemen told me that most guys on the end use a braid leader because it is more abrasive resist for the pilings.

I thought fluorocarbon or mono would be best for the leader because they are more resist to abrasion then braid?
 

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never heard of somebody using a braid leader for abrasion resistance.. if anything I'd think add a few extra feet of wire to the end of your mono
 

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The best King rigs I seen were from Hatteras area. I use 4' of 60-80lb mono and then use 6-12" of wire, with 1 or 2 treble hooks. tie the wire right to the mono using an Albright knot. That way the rig dosen't tangle much and the kings don't see the 4' of wire leader.
 

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Tomahawk, I didn't understand your last sentence, what 4' wire leader are you mentioning if you are using 4' mono and 6"-12" of wire?

The guys told me it was best to use a 4' or 5' wire leader. I am guessing to protect from the tail. I picked up some solid 120ish wire, but it is hard for me to tie a good haywire twist, but I am going to keep trying.
 

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I use around 6' of wire going to my hooks the coffee colored wire you cant use the shiny stuff. no braid needed anywhere on the end of a pier except maybe a plug rod or someone flounder or sheep fishing imo
 

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My rig is set up with 5oo yards of 30# mono with about 100 yards of 50# mono with a 12" rig, please no braid on the anchor or fighting rod due to braids tendency to cut lines in a fight.
 

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I king mackerel fish all the time and my rigs are made with 5 feet or so 40 pound tooth-proof brand wire. I never get bit off by Spanish or kings. I also have a topshot of 40 to 50 pound mono to let me keep the fish away from the poles.
 

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If your fishing real clear water that rig I mentioned works very well. There's no reason to use 4-5' of wire before the hooks. Heavy mono works better in my experience. Plus if there's any chance of hooking tarpon the rig I mentioned works better.
 

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My rig is set up with 5oo yards of 30# mono with about 100 yards of 50# mono with a 12" rig, please no braid on the anchor or fighting rod due to braids tendency to cut lines in a fight.
This is a point I missed when I first went kingin on the piers. You don't wanna be the reason to somebody loses their dream fish. The piers I goto don't have a rule about no braid, it's sortof a self regulated thing by the veteran kingers at the end.
 

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Yeah, Im sure heavy, 50pound+ braid is resistant to the pilings but why not used heavy mono or flouro as your piling leader and avoid the chance of cutting someones anchor lines? I will say I have seen guys use a "topshot" of braid for this reason...every time they get greif from the others.
 

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The pier didn't want an anchor with braid for obvious reasons, but most looked like they had braid on their fighter one way or another.

I just had the reel spooled and unless I absolutely need to re-spool my fighting reel I will hold off. It has braid the last 200 yards.
 

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There are some pier which do have the "no braid" rule. Regardless, I would listen to Riverpirate and Ayimak and stick with Mono and wire. Save your braid by spooling it directly onto a smaller rod/reel combo and use it for plugging or catching bait fish along the pier.
 

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Every pier is different I suppose. They all got their own way to go about it.

hrmmm...Never thought about not using the shiny wire for my leader? Finding the tannest, most weathered-looking one of the bunch and copying whatever he's doing has only got me missed strikes! Normally im content with the fact that I can ignore the world for a day. But this year. THIS YEAR im landing a proper fish of the end of the pier. maybe.
 

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Braid is OK on the fighting reel at all piers in Nc as far as I'm aware. I know it's okay on OCP, Kure, mercers, JR, surf city, seaview and bogue. Just NOT OK on the anchor reel.

Straight mono or braid with a 20-200 yard mono topshot on the fighting reel.
17-25 pound mono on the anchor reel.
4-8 foot of wire straight to the swivel at the popoff. I've seen some people who use a shorter wire leader with mono to the popoff but I haven't noticed any significant difference in strikes.

7 strand and single strand both work. Some people or just about everyone on a certain pier will tell you one of the two won't catch fish and if you go to the next pier on the coastline the majority will tell you the exact opposite. Use what you like. Buy "coffee" colored single strand not "brite". The "brite" wire is way too shiny and much easier to see.
 

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Braid is OK on the fighting reel at all piers in Nc as far as I'm aware. I know it's okay on OCP, Kure, Carolina beach, mercers, JR, surf city, seaview and bogue. Just NOT OK on the anchor reel.

Straight mono or braid with a 20-200 yard mono topshot on the fighting reel.
17-25 pound mono on the anchor reel.
4-8 foot of wire straight to the swivel at the popoff. I've seen some people who use a shorter wire leader with mono to the popoff but I haven't noticed any significant difference in strikes.

7 strand and single strand both work. Some people or just about everyone on a certain pier will tell you one of the two won't catch fish and if you go to the next pier on the coastline the majority will tell you the exact opposite. Use what you like. Buy "coffee" colored single strand not "brite". The "brite" wire is way too shiny and much easier to see.
You can take CB off that list we don't do braid, But Kure does and its just down the road...call us old school if you like... hah and any pier on the OBX is the same as far as braid goes except maybe jennettes I believe allows it.
 

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You can take CB off that list we don't do braid, But Kure does and its just down the road...call us old school if you like... hah and any pier on the OBX is the same as far as braid goes except maybe jennettes I believe allows it.
Oops my bad. I've fished Kure many times and talked to guys from the northern extension who told me to come fish up there but no one ever mentioned the no braid policy so I just lumped it in there by assumption with the rest lol. Serves me right for assuming! I knew there must be a few exceptions that I was forgetting.
 

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Oops my bad. I've fished Kure many times and talked to guys from the northern extension who told me to come fish up there but no one ever mentioned the no braid policy so I just lumped it in there by assumption with the rest lol. Serves me right for assuming! I knew there must be a few exceptions that I was forgetting.
Yeah man come on up to north pier, well I guess its down for you.. but Kure is for rookies and tourists! :p
 

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Yeah man come on up to north pier, well I guess its down for you.. but Kure is for rookies and tourists! :p
I've met enough guys from the northern extension who fish Kure often and also just hardcore pier rats who call Kure their home pier to disagree with that... I'll still come fish it some day. You know Patrick Pauley?
 

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I've met enough guys from the northern extension who fish Kure often and also just hardcore pier rats who call Kure their home pier to disagree with that... I'll still come fish it some day. You know Patrick Pauley?
Kidding ofcourse! yes sir I know Pat, sick rod builder, helluva fisherman
 
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