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I was out today and saw this. Water Vertebrate Nature Mammal Body of water
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I don't know if my paddle is visible but I put it under the fish for scale. Anyway it's about a 25+" drum that was wasted by a gill net. Right before I saw this a friend called to tell me that there was someone putting 4 nets in the creek last pm. He fished the creek with me a few times and on his own.
I tried looking to see what is open on the denr site but that site is beyond me. 15 minutes of searching for this and that and I got nowhere.

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Thanks but I can't make sense of this?
The wording is like another language. I can't tell if this proclamation is stating exceptions to previously passed legislation or what.
I can't even find out what is, "in season" for gill nets.
I'm going to call NC denr today.

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Thanks but I can't make sense of this?
The wording is like another language. I can't tell if this proclamation is stating exceptions to previously passed legislation or what.
I can't even find out what is, "in season" for gill nets.
I'm going to call NC denr today.

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The only thing not "in season" is striped bass and you don't have those. Flounder, trout, and mullet are legal to target and redfish are legal to keep as by catch. Really isn't a such thing as "in season", but there is such thing as a closed season. If it ain't closed, it's in.
 

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IMHO if nets are being set in that Creek they are after reds. Why that one didn't make it in the boat we will never know.

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You seem to be implying that some commercial fishermen would target reds when they are only permitted to catch redfish as a bycatch. I am completely shocked by the allegation that these people would debase their heritage and try to exploit loopholes in the law.


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My point not is this looks like a commercial catch. It's being cleaned at a seafood house and it's a lot more drum than a single boat would catch.
I just feel the video screams of violations.
Then again I am the ultimate sceptic with dwindling faith in my fellow man.

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I agree it would make sense to move but I don't have the motivation to drag my kayak around. My truck isn't set up for it and getting it set up would mean money and time etc.
I am hearing that fishing is slow in many areas as well. Maybe I am just choosing to hear what I want to hear and not hearing what I don't?
Anyway I broke a three trip drought today with my largest drum ever. I didn't want to wrestle it up and get a precise measurement so I quickly placed it next to the stick on yard stick I have on my kayak. It's the custom model with the first four inches torn off by my stake pole. (poor planning). With the tail at, or near, 5" the nose was at the 36" end. I'll call it 30" conservatively. It was a blast. Fishing net Fish Fisherman Net Fishing

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After this I got five more blow ups and lost another red drum about 5' from the kayak. It was a borderline fish anyway so I went home without any fish for my fish burrito dinner I had planned. These are just not the same with no fish in them.
One thing I noticed was the water seemed a few degrees cooler and was much cleaner looking. Don't know if this means a thing.

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Time to change up spots challenger....eastern NC is loaded with drummy water
I'm sorry but I really hope you are kidding. I have been fishing around here for 20 years. In the late 90's to late 00's the redfishing in the Morehead/Beaufort area was as good as you could find anywhere. I made a pretty good living and a good name for myself focusing only on shallow water flyfishing for reds on specific tides so that the fish could be sighted and cast to with a flyrod. The last five years have been a shadow of what that fishing was and this year is the worst year I have ever seen for inshore fishing around here. Trout fishing is done this year due to the freeze and lack of action by DMF. Flounder just continue to be hammered by netters and the only way to consistently target them is to fish wrecks and such in the ocean. Red drum are close to absent in the Newport and North Rivers. Areas I would always find fish in for years and years just don't have them. To say there is more "drummy water" is to simply be turning a blind eye to why they are not around. To the south of us there was a requirement put in years ago that guys have to tend their nets. To the east of us they close netting in the summer due to turtle interactions. But around here we get all the guys who can't fish their nets anyplace else and they have redoubled their efforts to keep any fish that may be in the water in their fish boxes. Any reds you find around here are a triumph. They are targeting them and they are shameless about it. Do you really live on Hwy 24 in Newport? We are practically neighbors. Lets get together and I can show you a few things or maybe you can show me a few things.
 

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Yes I live in Newport on 24. I am no scientist, but I still stand beside my original statement. Drum are everywhere. I have caught redfish in the Newport, White Oak, and Neuse River basins every year for the past 5 or so years. Not sure what it was like in the old days, but the new days have been decent enough. Numbers and quality. See for yourself.


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Wish I could help. I know semi-homeless people who slay the redfish from the banks of the Newport River, from Conch point to Duncan landing. Soaking bait, Every year. Heck, It's a Mill Creek tradition. Fishery may not be as good as it was in the 90's but it's good enough for us little guys. A couple tourneys were won last year with Newport river fish. Cough cough trigger22

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Saw at least 300ish in core sound fri night gigging. Drum are everywhere in north River as well. Jus saying. Caught some of the nicest upper slots in Newport River and neuse last year ive ever seen. Bay River has not been great with drum but still a few. Yeah, there are drum. ****** don't lie. I fish with him often
 
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