[mikeski]

I need to get my gear strait for this coastal Red X thing. I have some double rigs and such for surf and pier fishing. A rod and some stick baits I use for stripper fishing when visiting inlaws at the NJ Shore. Then a 7' rod with a Penn 10 or Diawa Sealine 50 for it. I have 6lb test on all my fresh water reels. I figure that's a little light. I was going to move one spinner to 8lb so good timing.

I would have two freshwater spinning rigs. One with 6lb and another with 8lb for casting. Then a salt spinning for casting/live bait with 10 or 12 on it. Do I need the 7' level wind setup? I can go to 30 on that 50.

For the drum it appears a single hook rig on an egg sinker is popular. And I have seen a three way with an inline two hook rig, sinker and third to the spool. These rigs seem to be made from 60lb mono.

What size hooks will be needed?
I am guessing that for weights it's whatever holds. Egg, Pyramid, whatever. Depending on the rig setup.
Will need leader material. 60lb?
Anything else for the live and cut bait stuff?

mikeski

 

[h2ohhh]

Forget the pier and surf stuff. 6-7 foot rods, 10-15 lb test. 1\2 oz. Egg sinker, 1\0 circle hook for bait. 1\8 oz Jighead's with a 4" Gulp. Maybe a mirrolure or top dog Jr. for trout. Pretty much all you need. 6-8 lb test is too light,...hope this helps.

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[papadave]

Mike, good questions and I think it's a good idea to post the answers in a place it can be accessed quickly by anyone new to the Bay River meet ..... I'm gonna quote your post and post the link over on the M&G thread, but just in case here it is
-> https://sites.google.com/site/redxanglers/events/event-highlights/annual-bay-river-m-g#tips

As to h2ohhh's answer, it's a good guess, but seeing as how he's never made it to the Bay River M&G is just that ..... a guess!

 

[mikeski]

Thanks PD. Perfect. Was that out there and I just missed it? I know I read that whole thread.

I have been watching videos and following threads to get info on the hows and with whats figured out. Plenty of people want to show you how to rig up for bull reds. What is in your post makes more sense.

mikeski

 

[papadave]

It wasn't there but needed to be.

 

[h2ohhh]

It wasn't there but needed to be.

Like me. Its on my bucket list.

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[papadave]

Hope you do get the opportunity to to check it off your bucket list real soon John .... we miss your company down there.

 

[mikeski]

I was at the fishing shop for lunch and decided on a Shimano Teramar 7.5' Medium with extra fast action. To go with that is a Pflueger President 35 and 15 pound braid. With a base of mono to start the 150 yard pack should fill the reel nicely.

This is considered an inshore rod and has stainless guide frames.
http://fish.shimano.com/publish/con...rods/inshore/Teramar_SE_Inshore_Spinning.html

Now I just have to wait a month to go.

Hows the fishing out there this weekend???

mikeski

 

[h2ohhh]

While you are waiting, practice the uni to uni knot if you are not familiar with braid. It is a great knot for connecting leaders as well as connecting the braid to the backing. Also learn the Palomar for connecting a hook or lure. There are video's on tying these. The uni to uni (double uni knot) is a little trickier than the palomar. Use a couple of pieces of string to practice them. Conventional knots will not work well with braid...you don't want to find that out after a big red is streaking across a flat and the knot slips. Your gear selection sounds just fine, btw.

 

[biglenr]

While you are waiting, practice the uni to uni knot if you are not familiar with braid. It is a great knot for connecting leaders as well as connecting the braid to the backing. Also learn the Palomar for connecting a hook or lure. There are video's on tying these. The uni to uni (double uni knot) is a little trickier than the palomar. Use a couple of pieces of string to practice them. Conventional knots will not work well with braid...you don't want to find that out after a big red is streaking across a flat and the knot slips. Your gear selection sounds just fine, btw.

I'll second John on the braid knots.... I fought braid forever, because I hate those knots. Now, I'm on the dark side, using braid on my medium and heavy rods.

I can't do the uni-to-uni..... I figure I don't need leader that bad anyway. And the palomar is pain... braid is so limp it's hard getting that loop at the end to open for the hook to go through..... Grrrrrr.

But it's all worth it when you KNOW the line is everything it's supposed to be, and the feel is so much better.....

 

[sundrop]

I used to struggle with the knots to connect braid/mono leader so I used a small barrel swivel to connect them until I got a hang of the uni. I also usually dab a drop of super glue on my connections for safety.

 

[mikeski]

Ya, I heard something about knots and braid. I was surfing around on that subject.

Also, I was unaware that the line may not grip the spool and could spin on the spool. I have seen electrical and masking tape used on the spool to give the line a grip. I saw tape on the manufacturers web site too. Also, doing a base spooling of mono and then tying the braid to it.

mikeski



mikeski

 

[papadave]

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/alberto-knot/
Good source for all your knot tying needs!

 

[sundrop]

I use electrical or duct tape when not using a mono backing. A couple of wraps does the trick.

 

[h2ohhh]

I use electrical or duct tape when not using a mono backing. A couple of wraps does the trick.

Yes but to reiterate, no worries when using the mono backing and 100 yards of braid will suffice for inshore saving you money.

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[Scott Hobbs]

You will go broke trying to buy everything that is suggested to use on a fishing trip. Start small and work yourself up in tackle. Check your regular freshwater tackle and see what lures and such can be used unilateral.

Easy knot for mono to braid is the "triple surgeons knot". If you can tie your shoes, you can tie this. Use it all the time, quick and easy to tie even in low light and the wind.

I usually use 15 pound braid for most of my applications casting jig heads with grubs or assorted plastic baits or Gulp. I like the 1/8 ounce size for most situations but keep heavier sizes, 3/8 and 1/4 ounces, in the even the winds get up or go to deeper water.

Topwater style bait like a Mirrolure Topdog Jr, something subsurface in the event winds gets up and topwater action isn't happening. Mirrolure MR17, Rapala X Rap 8, or other lures.

Some type of shrimp imitation bait like Storm Shrimp, Billy Bay, DOA or Vudu shrimp....and the list goes on and on.

Others there that you are fishing with will share information during the day and share lures with you. As days go by fish prefer certain colors and its hard to have them all.....well just about. I just happen to know a few on here that have about all of them..

Good luck

 

[Fish_Fiend]

You will go broke trying to buy everything that is suggested to use on a fishing trip. Start small and work yourself up in tackle. Check your regular freshwater tackle and see what lures and such can be used unilateral.

Easy knot for mono to braid is the "triple surgeons knot". If you can tie your shoes, you can tie this. Use it all the time, quick and easy to tie even in low light and the wind.

I usually use 15 pound braid for most of my applications casting jig heads with grubs or assorted plastic baits or Gulp. I like the 1/8 ounce size for most situations but keep heavier sizes, 3/8 and 1/4 ounces, in the even the winds get up or go to deeper water.

Topwater style bait like a Mirrolure Topdog Jr, something subsurface in the event winds gets up and topwater action isn't happening. Mirrolure MR17, Rapala X Rap 8, or other lures.

Some type of shrimp imitation bait like Storm Shrimp, Billy Bay, DOA or Vudu shrimp....and the list goes on and on.

Others there that you are fishing with will share information during the day and share lures with you. As days go by fish prefer certain colors and its hard to have them all.....well just about. I just happen to know a few on here that have about all of them..

Good luck

The Dude Abides!

Gene - Red》X《 - Asheboro

 

[mikeski]

Thanks. I know I want it all but then again I have to think about how much I have on my yak.

While looking at rods I took a gander at the shrimp, grubs and such. There was a wall of the stuff. So it will be a couple of this and that.

I have some chrome rattle traps hanging around and some surface stuff to bring. It's mainly plastics I will need to acquire from scratch.

Time to watch some videos.

mikeski

 

[h2ohhh]

Mr. Hobbs gives great advice. 1\8 oz jig with some 4" Gulp shrimp. White or New Penny color. You can buy the new 1\2 pint of Gulp for $10...be plenty for the event. Jigs are cheap. If you don't have a cast net hook up with someone that does and bring a bucket. Couple of tosses and you've got bait. C-rig a finger mullet on a 1\0 circle hook, 1\2 oz egg sinker. Buy a popping cork for a few bucks and for $20 you are good to go and you can catch reds flounder and trout with those items.

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[ice cream man]

Where & when is the next meet & greet?
What are you going to be fishing for? ..... ICM