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Excellent explanation of a complicated subject, Mac!

One thing about the "Bartram's" bass, you get one on over 3/4 lb on a fly and you will know it. The ones I have caught will fight almost as good as a smallie but they don't jump worth a hoot.
 
not silly gambusia......people do it all the time and yes i spoke with the bioligist that was in charge of the bioligist who cked that rock bass......i called his supervisor because i was sure it was misidentified and he was sure(before it was examined) it was going to be a roanake since they were stocked in brush crrek and the roccky river (never took in the rocky) and rock bass have never been stocked in the deep but he assured me that it was definatly identified as rock bass and the bioligist who did the cking knew his stuff.....either it flew there , or someone let it go out of a bucket......maybe it did fly there......

any way coosa bass have been reported in the horsepasture river (native) up to windy falls and 1 other trib............and they were stocked in the linville river but a study was never done to see if they made it and no reports have come from the linville about them so it is assumed they all died out or hybridized with smallies and thus are all gone(they were never stocked in lake jocassee, they were in the river when it was dammed)..........how do you think smallies got into the chattahoohcee, or shoal bass in the ocmulgeee? bucket stockers.............
 
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Here is a pic I found of the fish in question:

http://www.ncwildlife.org/Fishing/images/img_3c2_rockbass.jpg


I still maintain nobody bait bucket stocks rock bass into the Piedmont of NC. Your flying theory is a lot more plausible IMHO


they were never stocked in lake jocassee, they were in the river when it was dammed)
Did not know that. I just assumed they were stocked.
 
that pic is probaly a spotted bass.............looks more like it than a redeye(coosa)..and they have never been stocked there unless it was by a midnigth stocker.....

Gambusia, redeyes(coosa's) have been stocked as far away as Calfiornia and even in the mountains of puerto rico.............
 
that pic is probaly a spotted bass.............looks more like it than a redeye(coosa)..and they have never been stocked there unless it was by a midnigth stocker.....

Gambusia, redeyes(coosa's) have been stocked as far away as Calfiornia and even in the mountains of puerto rico.............
It sure does have red eyes, though. Smallies and spots both sometimes have red eyes. I have caught spots out of the Yadkin, when it was muddy, and they looked really different from most spots. Caught one that appeared to be a spot/smallie hybrid. Fought great for it's size.
 
Rock bass (or redeye) occur in the Eno river in the piedmont and sporadically throughout the Neuse River basin.

And also, redeye is a common name that overlaps multiple species, as common names for many species do. Scientific names are used, in part, to avoid the confusion.
 
But if you look at the fish in the pics none of the fish displayed are the same the 1st pic they favor smalies my pic is either a rock or Roanoke by my research and the last favors a spot more than anything I feel we are tring to identify to my different pics as well as guess what someone might have put there my question for Mack is what species am I holding on the first page
 
hello Froggy, pic you are talking about looks like a roanoke to me but i could be wrong....if it is out of 1 of the 2 rivers you normally fish i say it is 100 percent Roanoke bass...

Also, Gabehodson, some people do mistakenly call roanoke bass out of the eno rock bass but they are not rock bass........

also any bass can have redeyeys

see thsi pic of a largmouth i caught the other day



see my blog for more info on that fish....mack
 
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